UK Election 2010

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Holly, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. Holly

    Holly Active Member

    Not sure if this is appropriate for a global forum, but what the hell, do with it as you will. :)

    So, it's that time again; time to fill your ears with empty promises from upper class politicians that spend tax payers' money on their second homes!

    As I'm 16 I'm not able to vote, but I've been following the Live Debates on SKY News.

    SO, thoughts?
    Labour, Conservative or Liberal Democrats?
    Gordon Brown VS David Cameron VS Nick Clegg?

    I'm all for Nick Clegg; this country could do with change and I think the Lib-Dems could be the ones to bring it. :)
  2. Madden

    Madden Faut souffrir pour être

    As I'm eighteen and able to vote - Labour all the way.
    Tony Blair pretty much ran away from his duties and it's been left for Brown to deal with. I actually think Brown will be a good choice for the country.
    David Cameron? No thank you. I'd rather it not be a Thatcherised society again.
    As for the Lib-Dems, I don't agree with them on a number of things. I believe they're wanting free education/no tuition fees which is ridiculous. You get what you pay for and there's hardly enough places at Universities already - why let more people apply when there's not the space for them? Aren't they wanting the Euro as well(?) in hope of making England more 'European'. Let's just destroy all of England/Britain's history and all it stands for incl. monarchy in one, shall we?

    I could be wrong on those policies - but they're just what I've been told about this past week :)
  3. Don Ricalo

    Don Ricalo Panda Bear.

    Labour - Ran the country into the ground, leaves the clean up for the next lot.
    Tories - Bunch of tossers. Simple.
    Lib Dem - A poor shadow of the Tories, completely fuckin' clueless.

    Rather not have any, taa.
  4. Starburst

    Starburst New Member

    I actually like Gordon Brown.
    I was torn between labour and lib. dems but because I agree on a couple of their policies but I think Gordon Brown is so much better than Nick Clegg. If I got to choose any of them to run the country it'd be Brown. I feel sorry for him as well seeing as Tony Blair messed up and he's getting the blame for it.

    The Lib Dems. lost my vote when I heard about the Euro, I think. Not that I can vote yet, anyway.
  5. Madden

    Madden Faut souffrir pour être

    ^ So glad I'm not the only one :)
  6. Don Ricalo

    Don Ricalo Panda Bear.

    Yeah, totally Blair's fault for fucking up the budgeting during his time in power and not putting even the tiniest amount aside for a 'rainy day'.
    Labour have introduced more laws during their time in power than any other Government in history.
    They've created a Nanny State combined with Big Brother. We're drowning in Health & Safety laws whilst simultaneously having every action tracked. Brown has funded all of these things as Chancellor during his time at #11. He's funded all the wrong things while Blair's stupid decision to go to the Middle East has meant there's no funding for the Armed Forces and we all know how that's been going.
    He's a joke, not a leader.
    Cameron has the qualities of a leader, but he's a complete prick with the wrong policies.
    Clegg is just there to make up the numbers.
  7. *mcr-mad-4-lyf*

    *mcr-mad-4-lyf* New Member

    as im only 15 and cant vote (not that i really want to tbh) the whole politics confuses me thats why i dont give two shits about it because nowts going to make britain better i bet (in my opinion, and many others) but if i did vote i would go for the one that is (i doubt) going to give us a good change :D
  8. Madden

    Madden Faut souffrir pour être

    ^ No, maybe England won't get better - but it can get worse. Like Richard said, Cameron's policies will most likely turn England on its head (and not for the better). That's why people vote. Not always for trying to make the country 'better' but to keep the politicians with the wrong policies out of Downing Street.
  9. *mcr-mad-4-lyf*

    *mcr-mad-4-lyf* New Member

    ohh i dont pay attention at the politics on the news so i thought they were trying to make it better oh well
  10. Madden

    Madden Faut souffrir pour être

    Probably a good thing you're unable to vote, then.
  11. Don Ricalo

    Don Ricalo Panda Bear.

    It's depressing to think that Labour are the only real option to vote for, simply because they won't be making radical changes that screw up so many aspects of the country. The only issue with voting for them is that they'll just continue to fuck everyone over in other ways. Their only solution to any problem is either making it illegal or raising the price of something/taxes. The Tories will screw over the majority of the country, while the Lib Dems are just going to fuck everyone over completely, stripping the country of what makes Britain independent and identifiable while making us completely vulnerable and an even smaller player in global stakes.
  12. Lola.

    Lola. Guest

    Let's see
    Tories - just no.
    I can't help but feel sorry for Gordon Brown; he's by far the 'best' most experienced politician out of the three, but he was handed the poisoned chalice from the start.
    As for the Lib Dem uprising, interesting. Nick Clegg's no Barack Obama, but he's probably the most promising of the three. Should he come into power I don't think he'd be so bad, so long as he stuck to his rosy socialist policies, which remains to be seen.
    The best chance Gordon Brown has of staying in power is a Labour/Lib Dem coalition. But this won't happen: it's anyone's game, really.
  13. Madden

    Madden Faut souffrir pour être

    Anyone watch Cameron's interview with Jeremy Paxton? Brilliant.
  14. Artemis

    Artemis New Member

    Personally, I feel Lib Dems would be a good choice. We need changes, and Labour aren't going to bring them anytime soon. I agree with a lot of Lib Dems policies - and mainly see them as the "best option" out of a bad line up.

    I can't see Lib Dems doing anything overly drastic, especially not in the same sense as the Tories. Tbh, though, I'd be happy with either Lib Dems or Labour getting in, simply because I'd probably have to leave the country if Tories had the power.

    Tbh, I can not understand in the slightest why people are voting Tories (unless you're rich, and then obviously, you're going to vote for the party that keep the rich, even richer, and the poor, even poorer.)


    PS. - Also, how can the euro be a bad thing? All it is, is money, who really cares about history/ect? We have castles and landmarks for that stuff. At the end of the day, it should come down to what would be the better option, and the euro would be. It's so stupid to have to keep changing money over, losing money in the process, whenever you go to another country.
  15. Madden

    Madden Faut souffrir pour être

    So you've said that the Lib Dems wanting the Euro isn't a bad thing yet not said as to why it's a good prospect.

    How would England benefit from the Euro socially and politically? Sure, it might make us 'closer' to Europe but, like Richard said in the comment you quoted from, it'll make Britain less identifiable. Rather than being able to stand on its own (like it has for centuries incl. those where it practically ruled the world), it's now going to conform and be a very, very small part of something much bigger.

    Yes, we have landmarks and stuff (as do most if not all countries) and yes, we've got a rich history. The GBP is part of that. It's part of what makes Britain identifiable. It's a landmark in itself, really.

    That's a bit narrow-minded, don't you think? It's not just money. Money isn't a simple thing. Yeah, sure, it might make things easier if we travel to Europe, not having to change money over etc. - but is that really a big deal? I don't think it is. It's not a great hassle. The stock-markets rely on countries having different currencies. I understand that you're looking at this from your own personal view as a holiday-goer etc. but, in the larger 'view' of things, having the Euro can easily shatter a lot of businesses and industries (not small ones, either). It could, very easily, turn England on its head. And not for the better.

    As to who cares about history etc. - historians, for one. Other than that - people who take pride in England and that means its currency, too. I doubt a vast amount of people are going to be pleased at the thought of losing something that their country stands for/epitomises and conforming to what other countries have done.

    Personally, I think that England/GB shouldn't even be a part of the European continent and should be on its own. But that's just my opinion.
  16. Thumbelina

    Thumbelina Administrator Staff Member

    I don't know enough about any of the parties to really have a proper opinion - which is why I'm currently spending time educating myself so that when I vote, it'll be a proper, informed vote that I can justify.
    My mum would probably disown me if I voted conservative, so that's not really an option xD; I was going to vote Lib Dem, but actually, some of their policies are silly (scrapping tuition fees, really?) and I certainly don't agree with the euro.

    Anyway, I'll get back to this when I've looked up about everything, so WATCH THIS SPACE FOR MY ULTRA-IMPORTANT INTERNET OPINION.
  17. Thumbelina

    Thumbelina Administrator Staff Member

    This is so annoying! Some of the points a party makes I'm like "YEAH!" but then the next point I'm like "no".
  18. Don Ricalo

    Don Ricalo Panda Bear.

    You're off the mark on Britain standing alone, Daisy, even if we are getting royally fisted for every bit of existence. We're one of the biggest financial investors to the EU and have one of the smallest voices, how are we to benefit? Well if you vote Lib Dem they'll scrap the nuclear defence system and we'll most likely get booted from the EU completely for being no use in a defensive or offensive deterrent. We've already got very little in the way of products that can make us self-sufficient, otherwise we wouldn't be one side of the busiest shipping lane in the world, so we'd fall flat on our face at the first hurdle.
    The more and more you think about it, the more you'll realise what I have. As much of a bunch of lying, manipulative, sly little bastards they are, Labour are the ones to do the most beneficial things for Britain. We've put up with their bullshit for a while now, I'm sure we can deal with some more rather than some radical changes that will fuck things up even further. You can't just turn a country on it's head like the others want to. With any luck Brown will do what he hinted and not stay as PM even if Labour won.
  19. xokay_nowx

    xokay_nowx Become, become, become

    Ahhh reading all this makes me feel grateful to be in America.
    (Not that I'm an Obama fan, but just that the attitude over there politically seems to be even more pessimistic than it is here.)
    At least here people hope things can improve when Obama gets out (proud to say that I'll be able to use my first vote to cast him out of office).
  20. Don Ricalo

    Don Ricalo Panda Bear.

    Voting him in was a smart move, if only to learn from mistakes of actions he takes. We already fully well know what would happen with each side getting into power, so we're left with no other choice. Obama however has given some good to the US even if they can't see it. The Health Bill is one of the most important step forwards I've seen in America for a very long time.

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