What god Has to Say - Page 3 - The Black Parade

Don Ricalo · 02-06-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

You're not "forced" to believe anything. God gave us free will, remember? And our God isn't irrational.

Buddhism is a belief that man created, therefore it is flawed and imperfect. Christianity is created by God, the Creator--maker of all, seer of all. All other beliefs, like Buddhism, the Muslim beliefs, etc., man created. That was someone thinking to himself, "I don't really agree wtih all this Bible crap. I think I'm going to think of another way that we can go to Heaven and still do what we want to do. Let's see how many people buy into it."

If he gave us free will, why is he so insistent we follow him?
Not irrational? How does "LISTEN TO ME OR BURN IN HELL" sound?
Buddhism isn't a belief man created, it is merely a theory that man commonly agreed on. It's actually much more solid than Christianity ever will be, as it allows for complete freedom and manipulation to man's pleasure, whereas Christianity is strict, straight and true. Funny that, seeing as so many get it wrong anyway.
If you respect other people's opinions, why are you calling their Religion bullshit?
"I don't really agree wtih all this Bible crap. I think I'm going to think of another way that we can go to Heaven and still do what we want to do. Let's see how many people buy into it."
Because that wasn't the original theory behind Christianity either?
If one many can make many believe, why can't another do it?

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

God never said the world would be perfect. He never said that we would prance around in fields with sunshine and rainbows and live happy lives forever. He said that the world is sinful, but He didn't create it that way. Adam and Eve first sinned.

The world is going further and further downhill. But God knew that was going to happen. In fact, he predicts it (the end of the world). It's going to happen, and as time goes by, we just get closer and closer to it.

God's Religion is supposedly perfect, so why is it failing at keeping a perfect world? If Adam and Eve first sinned, then God's creation is flawed. Now that would make it entirely possible that God's entire Religion is flawed too, shockhorrorrevelation!

Of course the world is going to end, every single person capable of rational thought knows this and it's inevitable, don't try give God the glory of coming up with this amazing idea.

Jeane. · 02-06-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

Buddhism is a belief that man created, therefore it is flawed and imperfect. Christianity is created by God, the Creator--maker of all, seer of all. All other beliefs, like Buddhism, the Muslim beliefs, etc., man created. That was someone thinking to himself, "I don't really agree wtih all this Bible crap. I think I'm going to think of another way that we can go to Heaven and still do what we want to do. Let's see how many people buy into it."

Okay, seriously. I was planning on trying to be polite and considerate. But fuck it.

I cannot believe you just denounced every other religion as "flawed". How dare you say that you do not believe you "were better than any of us"? Not only did you just rule out the beliefs of billions of people because YOUR God didn't "create" it, you actually said other religions were a result of someone THINKING TO HIMSELF "I don't really agree with this bible crap, let's see how many people buy into it" ?!

Your basically calling people who are Buddhist or Muslim, idiots for "buying" into it.

What if one argues that THEIR Gods created THEIR religions? Would it validate their religion as well?

What makes you think YOUR god created YOUR bible? But other Gods can't do the same?!

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

You do realise that Hebrew in it's most notable form has been around since 600BC? That's pretty ancient if you ask me.
Greek even more so, at over 3,400 years old.
How can you not consider that in those 3,400 years and the many poorly educated people that have existed throughout time that've re-told the stories of the bible couldn't have got something wrong? Then the people who hear that recite that wrong? And again? It takes one mistake, which is highly possible taking into account the levels of illiteracy throughout history. Then there's taking into account the illiterate ones who decided to write it down! It just gets worse and worse. Then you've got illiterate people translating it into other languages, it's all going downhill...

Just because the language has been around for a long time doesn't mean that people don't still speak it in...oh, I don't know...Israel and Greece?

And, about this marvelous illustration you have here, we don't get "ideas" and write what we think people should do. I explained all of this already. And what's this contradicting evidence you speak of?

**Ems** · 02-06-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

God never said the world would be perfect. He never said that we would prance around in fields with sunshine and rainbows and live happy lives forever. He said that the world is sinful, but He didn't create it that way. Adam and Eve first sinned.

The world is going further and further downhill. But God knew that was going to happen. In fact, he predicts it (the end of the world). It's going to happen, and as time goes by, we just get closer and closer to it.

But if god is all powerful it damn well should have been perfect. He failed. Hardcore.

And also god can't know what happens in the future, because that fucks up your little free will defense. If god know's everything that will happen, we don't really have free will now do we? and if we don't have free will, god should use his omnipotence and rid the world of evil.

Oh wait, that can't happen because THERE IS NO GOD.

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

Just because the language has been around for a long time doesn't mean that people don't still speak it in...oh, I don't know...Israel and Greece?

And, about this marvelous illustration you have here, we don't get "ideas" and write what we think people should do. I explained all of this already. And what's this contradicting evidence you speak of?

Try the fact that god is just one big fat contradiction?

Don Ricalo · 02-06-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

Just because the language has been around for a long time doesn't mean that people don't still speak it in...oh, I don't know...Israel and Greece?

And, about this marvelous illustration you have here, we don't get "ideas" and write what we think people should do. I explained all of this already. And what's this contradicting evidence you speak of?

Well done, you know international dialects =o
The fact is that over time, many people with poor literacy skills have existed, perfectly capable of distorting the bible's original text.

You do get 'ideas'.
Actually, you as a person, don't.
You just get lead to believe whatever bullshit you're fed and you're a fool to do so.
This contradicting evidence is that there is none, not a single shred of evidence to back up your Religion, yet you still go on completely ignorant.

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by heardthenews

Okay, seriously. I was planning on trying to be polite and considerate. But fuck it.

I cannot believe you just denounced every other religion as "flawed". How dare you say that you do not believe you "were better than any of us"? Not only did you just rule out the beliefs of billions of people because YOUR God didn't "create" it, you actually said other religions were a result of someone THINKING TO HIMSELF "I don't really agree with this bible crap, let's see how many people buy into it" ?!

Your basically calling people who are Buddhist or Muslim, idiots for "buying" into it.

What if one argues that THEIR Gods created THEIR religions? Would it validate their religion as well?

What makes you think YOUR god created YOUR bible? But other Gods can't do the same?!

There are no other gods. There is only one. Christianity is the oldest religion, and there is a lot of proof supporting the Bible, such as the mathematical percentage that I showed you above about how many people could've been mistaken for Christ. A lot of the Bible is faith, but it is the only way to get to Heaven (John 14:6).

**Ems** · 02-06-2008, 02:45 PM

Jesus was actually Jewish.

Jeane. · 02-06-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

There are no other gods. There is only one. Christianity is the oldest religion, and there is a lot of proof supporting the Bible, such as the mathematical percentage that I showed you above about how many people could've been mistaken for Christ. A lot of the Bible is faith, but it is the only way to get to Heaven (John 14:6).

Quote all you want, but I don't "buy" Christianity, so I don't care what part of the bible your quoting.

The percentage was a number, so really it's not a percentage. It's a statistic.

Christianity is FAR from the oldest religion, were you brainwashed as a child? You say "there are no other gods", with such assurance. There is just as little proof of your god as any other Gods you deem false. Obviously any relevant point I bring across, you will not have the intellect to contradict with valid proof.

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ems

But if god is all powerful it damn well should have been perfect. He failed. Hardcore.

And also god can't know what happens in the future, because that fucks up your little free will defense. If god know's everything that will happen, we don't really have free will now do we? and if we don't have free will, god should use his omnipotence and rid the world of evil.

I want a perfect world, too. I don't want to live in this place. I want it to be perfect. But it's not. God didn't fail. Everything is under his control. He knows what's going on, he knows what's going to happen--everything. Just because God knows what's going to happen doesn't mean that He made it happen. He just knew it was going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Richard

Well done, you know international dialects =o
The fact is that over time, many people with poor literacy skills have existed, perfectly capable of distorting the bible's original text.

You do get 'ideas'.
Actually, you as a person, don't.
You just get lead to believe whatever bullshit you're fed and you're a fool to do so.
This contradicting evidence is that there is none, not a single shred of evidence to back up your Religion, yet you still go on completely ignorant.

God didn't appoint idiots to write His word. He appointed people who knew how to speak their language. He didn't say, "Hey, you beggar on the street with no money or intelligence. Write the Word for me?" He wrote it. And besides, everything was written down in those days. It wasn't like the Bible was just a tale that people memorized. They wrote it all down. And the people weren't stupid. People were doctors, like Luke.

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by heardthenews

Quote all you want, but I don't "buy" Christianity, so I don't care what part of the bible your quoting.

The percentage was a number, so really it's not a percentage. It's a statistic.

Christianity is FAR from the oldest religion, were you brainwashed as a child? You say "there are no other gods", with such assurance. There is just as little proof of your god as any other Gods you deem false. Obviously any relevant point I bring across, you will not have the intellect to contradict with valid proof.

Then what is the oldest religion?

And I'm sorry I didn't use the proper mathematical term.