What god Has to Say - Page 2 - The Black Parade

**Ems** · 02-06-2008, 01:53 PM

Ever heard of sarcasm? Yeah, Richard was being sarcastic.

How do you know the bible wasn't just written by a crackwhore?

**Vega** · 02-06-2008, 02:06 PM

Fucking hell, I just posted something very long and it was deleted. It must have been god that made me click the back button on purpose right? No.

Religion is just the earliest form of government. "Kill and go to hell where you will suffer for all eternity". We live in a more civilized society, we don't need stupid threats like that to be controlled. Now we're controlled with "Kill and I'll put your ass in jail".

The only religion that makes sense to me is Buddhism. It focuses on the inner being, and they don't believe in an irrational god.

Don Ricalo · 02-06-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

How much proof do you want, Richard? You said it yourself: God is real. The Bible says that God does not lie, and if all that you read is true, what more could you ask for?

A college did the math: for eight of the prophecies in the Old Testament to be fulfilled in one man, it would take one man out of 100,000,000,000,000 for it to be even possible. And that's just eight. Jesus fulfilled hundreds.

Is that enough scientific/mathematical proof for you?

1) Sarcasm, I use it a lot.
2) God isn't real.
3) The Bible is a lie, because it's the word of someone who is a lie, saying they're not a lie.
4) That's the theory, but that's based on if it were actually true, which it most certainly isn't.

There is so, so much more going for Evolution and Science than there is for Creationism and Religion, yet as usual foolish people allow themselves to be brainwashed by their environment and culture, making them into clones of all the other religious nuts spouting nothing but bible quotes.

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Originally Posted by Vega

Fucking hell, I just posted something very long and it was deleted. It must have been god that made me click the back button on purpose right? No.

Religion is just the earliest form of government. "Kill and go to hell where you will suffer for all eternity". We live in a more civilized society, we don't need stupid threats like that to be controlled. Now we're controlled with "Kill and I'll put your ass in jail".

The only religion that makes sense to me is Buddhism. It focuses on the inner being, and they don't believe in an irrational god.

I'll agree on the Buddhism, their beliefs are much more free for you to interpret. They basically say "There is a God...or their may not be."
It's all up to how you see it, not what you've been forced to believe.

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:14 PM

Above, I stated some things that make sense to us, like how if just a regular person wrote it, they would be talking about how wonderful they are or what a blessing they are to other people.

2 Timothy 3:16 states that "All Scripture is inspired by God." And that doesn't mean "inspired" as if he just thought about the idea, but inspired in the fact that he wrote it.
In 2 Peter 1:20-21, Peter reminds the readers to "know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation. ...but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God."

You've also heard the Bible called "God's Word". 'Tis true! It is His Word, as he spoke it and inspired the men to write down exactly what he wanted them to write. It's like when you write something, no matter what it is, and the words just come to you. Well, that's what is was like for the scribes, except their words came from God.

And Richard, about your questions of the Bible being translated from different languages into English, the Bible isn't written in "ancient" languages. It's written in Hebrew and Greek. It's not difficult to translate Hebrew and Greek if you know both of the languages, so there's no worry about that question. Also, if the Bible did not say what God wanted it to say, He would've intervened long ago.

**Daisy** · 02-06-2008, 02:19 PM

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Also, if the Bible did not say what God wanted it to say, He would've intervened long ago.

That one sentence has pretty much summed up this entire thread for me.
You're entitled to your own opinion - as am I. I personally don't believe in Religion. If the Bible didn't did not say what God wanted it to - he'd intervene? How about God intervening in all of the disasters that has happened in the past? How about God saving lives and helping the world which is surely going further and further downhill?

In my own opinion it's not a matter that he won't - it's a matter that he can't. For in my mind, God does not exist.

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:21 PM

You're not "forced" to believe anything. God gave us free will, remember? And our God isn't irrational.

Buddhism is a belief that man created, therefore it is flawed and imperfect. Christianity is created by God, the Creator--maker of all, seer of all. All other beliefs, like Buddhism, the Muslim beliefs, etc., man created. That was someone thinking to himself, "I don't really agree wtih all this Bible crap. I think I'm going to think of another way that we can go to Heaven and still do what we want to do. Let's see how many people buy into it."

**Vega** · 02-06-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daisy

That one sentence has pretty much summed up this entire thread for me.
You're entitled to your own opinion - as am I. I personally don't believe in Religion. If the Bible didn't did not say what God wanted it to - he'd intervene? How about God intervening in all of the disasters that has happened in the past? How about God saving lives and helping the world which is surely going further and further downhill?

In my own opinion it's not a matter that he won't - it's a matter that he can't. For in my mind, God does not exist.

Their response is always that god gave us "free will" to do whatever we want.

Don Ricalo · 02-06-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mychemigirl

Above, I stated some things that make sense to us, like how if just a regular person wrote it, they would be talking about how wonderful they are or what a blessing they are to other people.

2 Timothy 3:16 states that "All Scripture is inspired by God." And that doesn't mean "inspired" as if he just thought about the idea, but inspired in the fact that he wrote it.
In 2 Peter 1:20-21, Peter reminds the readers to "know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation. ...but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God."

You've also heard the Bible called "God's Word". 'Tis true! It is His Word, as he spoke it and inspired the men to write down exactly what he wanted them to write. It's like when you write something, no matter what it is, and the words just come to you. Well, that's what is was like for the scribes, except their words came from God.

And Richard, about your questions of the Bible being translated from different languages into English, the Bible isn't written in "ancient" languages. It's written in Hebrew and Greek. It's not difficult to translate Hebrew and Greek if you know both of the languages, so there's no worry about that question. Also, if the Bible did not say what God wanted it to say, He would've intervened long ago.

Firstly, you've just proved my point by throwing a load of bible quotes at us. Well done, you've read the book, we know.

Now, Hebrew and Greek.

You do realise that Hebrew in it's most notable form has been around since 600BC? That's pretty ancient if you ask me.
Greek even more so, at over 3,400 years old.
How can you not consider that in those 3,400 years and the many poorly educated people that have existed throughout time that've re-told the stories of the bible couldn't have got something wrong? Then the people who hear that recite that wrong? And again? It takes one mistake, which is highly possible taking into account the levels of illiteracy throughout history. Then there's taking into account the illiterate ones who decided to write it down! It just gets worse and worse. Then you've got illiterate people translating it into other languages, it's all going downhill...
Even then, if it's not been misinterpreted, it's still a book of fairytales and falsehoods.

And now I end this post with something that even the idiots of this forum can understand and enjoy.

Jeane. · 02-06-2008, 02:28 PM

EDIT. -holdup.

mychemigirl · 02-06-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daisy

If the Bible didn't did not say what God wanted it to - he'd intervene? How about God intervening in all of the disasters that has happened in the past? How about God saving lives and helping the world which is surely going further and further downhill?

God never said the world would be perfect. He never said that we would prance around in fields with sunshine and rainbows and live happy lives forever. He said that the world is sinful, but He didn't create it that way. Adam and Eve first sinned.

The world is going further and further downhill. But God knew that was going to happen. In fact, he predicts it (the end of the world). It's going to happen, and as time goes by, we just get closer and closer to it.